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More Open Source Dissection [Apr. 22nd, 2008|02:04 pm]
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Also, even earlier than other quote I include in my previous post, Springheel Jack makes an even more cogent point:
The ferrett wonders why a man’s asking, out of the blue, if he can feel up a woman’s boobs shouldn’t be understood as “a way of saying that I may not yet know your mind, but your body is beautiful.” But this is simply to ask why he shouldn’t be able to continue to treat women as they have always been treated...we can't keep patriarchy out of it; the mere attempt is a means not so much of re-inscribing patriarchy but of shoving people in front of it to be run down, as if by a rampaging elephant. Women have not generally been able to define for themselves their own sexual identities and the parameters of their own sexual lives. Their sexuality has been policed by men - now restricted, now afforded, never at the woman's will but at the man's. That fact makes it more than childish to propose this as a psychosexual utopia - it's something much worse, much more culpable, then a mere boy's callow musing.
I encourage everyone to read the full post.
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[User Picture]From: archaica
2008-04-22 07:13 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, this whole "Open Source Boobs" "Project" just seems creepy and pervy to me.
[User Picture]From: pope_guilty
2008-04-22 07:23 pm (UTC)

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That's pretty excellent.
[User Picture]From: rfrancis
2008-04-22 07:25 pm (UTC)

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Which is why I think, given the choice, the counterproposal of "YOU wear a badge saying 'I don't mind if a woman comes up and says she'd let me grope her breasts'" is clearly preferable. And, of course, largely pointless, as I'm sure everyone involved well knows.

Of course, the entire thing is actually horribly skeevy and should be forgotten at the first opportunity, but anyway.
[User Picture]From: archaica
2008-04-22 07:28 pm (UTC)

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That's a good point - there is an abyssal chasm between "I will advertise my sexual immaturity masquerading as sexual liberation" and "Hey! Wouldn't it be awesome if the chicks would just advertise which ones are willing to let me grab their cans?" One is the act of an honest, if immature, lech, the other the act of a just-cogent-enough asshole.
[User Picture]From: ortho_bob
2008-04-22 07:30 pm (UTC)

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You can see the logic conclusion of all this - everyone has to wear hundreds of badges giving precise instructions of what can and cannot be done to them. "You may touch my left breast with a light upward stroke if you keep away from the nipple. Do not grin, laugh, whistle, drool or roll your eyes while doing so." Etc.

I'm off to get my "Please don't ask me to touch your breasts. I'm not anti-sex or body-phobic or anything but they're not that great, and besides you let that bearded twit maul them" badge laminated now.
[User Picture]From: fj
2008-04-22 07:36 pm (UTC)

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The hanky code will make a come-back after all.
[User Picture]From: muckefuck
2008-04-22 07:49 pm (UTC)

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It went away? I thought it was only masquerading under a number of ironic reimaginings.
[User Picture]From: sirenoftitan1
2008-04-22 08:18 pm (UTC)

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Were there buttons that also said "yes, I will buy you dinner first"?
[User Picture]From: silk_noir
2008-04-22 11:07 pm (UTC)

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Good stuff.
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[User Picture]From: fengi
2008-04-23 03:49 am (UTC)

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Because it isn't a party unless you break out the strawfeminazis.

I know all too well how it's nigh impossible to figure out the right thing to say once you've started a flamewar by saying the wrong thing. I'll give the Ferret points for trying, although he buried it under a pity party and highly exaggerated "now everyone thinks I'm evil".

I canNOT, however, understand others not picking up on the difference between a transitory moment of trangressive fun in a small safe group is something different when codified as a fondling project gleefully presented to the world.